uKER
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"watered down" build of Primal Rage now the official ROM?

I just updated MAME and noticed that now what what MAME considers the default build of Primal Rage is a so called "new build" of 2.3, which features simplified inputs and some missing specials.

I recently noticed that what MAME now considers the default build of Primal Rage is a so called "new build" of 2.3, which mirrors the version that was included in Midway Arcade Treasures 2, and AFAIK was never even in arcades.

This version of the game features simplified inputs and some missing specials, doing away with the control scheme that set the arcade game apart from other "mainstream" fighting games.
Contrarily to SF, MK and most others, where special moves are performed by a directional sequence and one or more buttons at the end, the specials in Primal Rage were performed by holding two or more buttons and then doing the directional moves.

In this "new build", however, the commands for special moves are replaced with standard Street Fighter-style inputs of directional sequences with a button at the end.
As an example, Armadon's Iron Maiden move, which originally was 2+3 A, U, T (holding 2 buttons and doing a half circle forward but done on the upper part of the joystick), is changed to B,D,DB + 3 (a backwards dragon punch move with a single button at the end).

For reference, here's guides with the two entirely different control schemes:
Original:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/arcade/58 ... e/faqs/757
MAT2:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xbox/9199 ... faqs/32920

Now, are we sure we want to make this build the one to remember by making it the official one, while burying the one that's historically been in arcades by making it a clone and labeling it as an old build and a clone of this so called "new build"?
Last edited by uKER on Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:23 am, edited 12 times in total.
uKER
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Re: "watered down" build of Primal Rage now the official ROM?

Well, looks like this isn't getting any attention here.
Can anyone suggest anywhere else where I can bring this up to get it to reach the people that have a say on the subject?
Thanks in advance.
mhoes
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Re: "watered down" build of Primal Rage now the official ROM?

uKER wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:53 am Well, looks like this isn't getting any attention here.
Can anyone suggest anywhere else where I can bring this up to get it to reach the people that have a say on the subject?
Thanks in advance.
No guarantees, but you might try over here :

https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads ... st&Board=1
uKER
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Re: "watered down" build of Primal Rage now the official ROM?

mhoes wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:00 am No guarantees, but you might try over here :

https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads ... st&Board=1
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Hey, thanks for the heads up.
I just posted it there. Fingers crossed.

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